say barry bonds, the baseball player, roger clemens. here it's the question, it's fraud. it's not a criminal case. it's a civil case. the government trying to ror money saying that lance armstrong basically cheated the government out of the money it spent sponsoring the tour de france. one other note here, thomas. i'm sure the defense will say, you know what, the tour de france got a lot out of its sponsorship. >> sure. >> have you to subtract any benefits that the postal service got out of sponsoring the race before you figure out how much he owes, and we're a long way from knowing whether he owes anything, but it does indicate a whole new serious level of legal exposure for lance armstrong. >> pete williams reporting from washington d.c. pete, thank for joining us so quickly. i appreciate it. that's going to wrap things up for me today. have a great weekend. i'll see you back here on monday at 11:00 a.m. eastern. don't go anywhere. "now with alex wagner" comes your way next. at tyco integrated security, we consider ourselves business optimizers. how? by building custom